Is it time to lock in our Home Equity Line rate? I'm Stuck!
*Update: We've decided to go w/ option #1 :)Similar to my car dilemna, now going on 4 months w/out a decision, it's enough to drive a person crazy.
Do you lock in a rate now and hope you caught it on the rise, or do you wait it out a bit and save more money each month?
The funny part is that Mrs. Budgetsaresexy and I JUST had our first talk about this last Saturday, and we told ourselves that we'd lock in the next time it goes up...thinking we'd have at least a couple months before thinking about it again. Ooops. So I now bring this dilemma to you guys for help :)
Here are the details on our current loan:
- This is our "2nd Mortgage"
- It's a maxed out Home Equity Line of Credit (HELOC)
- It's an interest-only loan
- The rate is variable
- The current rate is 4.55% (Prime - .45%)
- The current balance is $62,602.23.
There's a load of variables to consider here, not to mention hefty pros and cons, and we def. want to stay with USAA for a number of reasons. Here are the 2 options we're considering
Option #1 - Keep the loan as-is. Rate at 4.55%
- This rate can change at any time, depending on the Fed.
- We have 172 months to pay back this loan...8 months have already passed ;)
- This means monthly payments of roughly $230.
- PRO: Since we budget for $540 here, we save $300 every month!!! (our original amount when we purchased last year was $540, before re-financing and the fed lowering rates)
- PRO: Our emergency fund and house savings account gets padded each month with this $300!
- CON: We have no control since it's variable - The rate is associated with the WSJ Prime Rate, so it's all in the hands of the Fed. And considering it's been cut heavily over the past 10 months, I'm starting to believe the hype that it will start going back up.
- CON (in theory): It's interest-only - we are only paying off interest each month, adding nothing to the principal. I say in theory because the average home owner will not add extra to pay off the principal. We usually pay portions off sporadically, rather than a set amount each month. Our initial HELOC was $72k, so we've knocked it down by $10k already, even though we have an interest-only loan. Granted, most of this $10k was on accident.
It also gets a bit tricky because the rate above moves with the WSJ Prime Rate plus or minus the lender's points, while the rate to lock it in moves with the 182 T-bill (3 year ones I believe) plus or minus the lender's points. So it's like you have to judge two different trends.
Option #2 - Lock in a rate now at 7.72%.
- The interest rate will stay exactly the same now, as it will in 10 years.
- The HELOC would essentially convert into a Home Equity Loan (read about the difference)
- The loan will ammortize over 180 months
- The monthly payment would be around $588 (i used this simple loan calculator)
- PRO: We would now be paying both interest, AND principal. The main portion of course going to interest, but it's now all built in and mandatory - similar to a normal loan.
- PRO: No more worrying/thinking about interest rates adjusting, as it won't matter here.
- CON: The monthly price tag drastically goes up! no more padding any of our accounts :(
- CON: We'd now need to re-budget for an extra $45 a month, which is quite different than having an extra $200 to play with!
As i mentioned, we're eventually going to have to lock in a good rate before everything goes up, but is that time now? According to that graph up at the top, taken from BankRate.com, i'm thinking option #2 is looking like the best bet here. What would YOU do?
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6 Comments:
Procrastinate!!
The Fed isn't expected to raise rates till after summer (or so I hear). You're HELOC should be fine until then. Even if they do raise rates... how much will it go up? I'm thinking gradually... .5% at a time. That way you can ease into a new budget, perhaps even shop around for a home equity loan to refi. Although USAA is the greatest...
I've been no help whatsoever!
Wow now I have no doubt life is much more complicated in the states than anywhere else. I mean back in my home country people purchase houses with cash no credit. the difference is they save all their life own a house. For your decision I dont know what to say. The economy is not doing well at all. Future is kind of unpredictable. Even though fed makes desicions indepedently, I think our next president will determine how generally economy will shape.I guess if I were I would wait until end of this year and swicth to fixed by then.
I also say wait. You are paying really low interest now, it usually goes up in quarters and halves of a percent when the fed meets, and as you continue to snowflake extra money onto this account you might pay off most of it by the time the feds raise the rate.
Lets say you paid half of it off by the time the rate was rising to 7%? Say it rises around the time of the next election, things looking up, fresh new prez, interest goes up.
You then have 5K in your heloc. Pretty awesome, you have been getting your credit rate up making regular payments. And guess what? You are swapped with offers for 0% interest credit cards. You can transfer any debt onto one for either free, or for a low transfer rate say 3%. Similar to what you are paying now. And you pay the last 5K off over the next year before the 0% raises. And ta-da you are done!
I hate having debt, and variable rates can be really scary. I would probably wait until it goes up and then lock in as low a rate as possible.
But I would also pay it off as quickly as possible, not just the interest - if that's allowed.
Thanks for all the input guys! So far it seems that option #1 is looking to be the winner here...just so many variables!
tom - you're funny, and your brain works the same as mind! haha... you start w/ all this good info, and then can scrap it at the last second - i love it. you're def. helpful too :)
chicky - MANnnnn saving all that cash to buy a house? wow, Americans would NEVER get one if that were the case :) Some people cant' even save a few thousand.
childfreelife - i have to admit, i'm liking the way you think here! i never thought about the c/c xfer idea for this guy...but also not sure i'd have the balls for it.
I guess it's true that i don't ever had to lock in a rate at all. Afte looking back at all the rates over the past 17 years, it looks like the highest one ever was at 9.5%....so WORST case it goes back up to that point over the years, in which i would still have .45 taken off.
And by then i could re-fi, try the c/c xfer idea, or might even be in a totally new house by then anyways.
We'll see what the Mrs. thinks about this post and comments ;)
hey, you snuck in there spillingbuckets! i just posted my comment and saw that you got it in before me :)
i agree, i hate having debt...although this debt is better than the other kind out there for sure. and yes, we can pay off any of the principal at any time, which is great.
there's something to be said about having flexibility here, which we wouldn't get if we locked in a rate.
although, i forgot to mention we could lock in PART of the entire amount too. WE could lock in 25% at this rate, 50% at a diff. rate, etc as time goes on. but that just throws another big variable out there...too much for today :)
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