Blogger Showdown #5: Matt Jabs vs. Adam Baker
Get excited for PF Blogger Showdown #5: Matt Jabs vs. Adam Baker! What I love about these guys is that they're both so inspirational AND down to Earth. And if you haven't been following the PF circuit lately, they're everywhere! haha...You've got them messaging like crazy on Twitter, blogging out their hearts on Debt Free Adventure and Man vs. Debt respectively, and even moonlighting for heavy hitting blogs on top of it! (Five Cent Nickel or Get Rich Slowly ring any bells?) Needless to say, these guys are good. What's more, they're quick to help their friends out.
So sit back, grab your coffee, and watch 'em spill it all out on the table! (the honesty, not the coffee) It doesn't get more sincere than this, my friends.
 Matt Jabs725 Readers Debt Free Adventure @mattjabs |  Adam Baker2,457 Readers Man vs. Debt @manvsdebt |
| How long have you been blogging for? | |
| I started a personal/tech blog in 2007 but did not step onto my personal finance soapbox until January 4th, 2009. | I started my blog in the last week of March of this year. I wish I had some cool story about how I've always wanted to do this from a young age, but it's not true. I've always hated writing in any shape or form, but somehow managed to find myself blogging. Who knew? |
| What's so great about personal finance? | |
| I think gaining control over money is sexy. Also, because our culture has largely starved us of the knowledge to manage our personal finances properly, taking this issue on is beneficial to me and hopefully to those reading DFA. Oh yeah... and I'm a total math/money/numbers geek. | Personal Finance is one of a handful of topics that everyone has to deal with. There's a million different sub-topics and a million different opinions, haha. Keeps things fresh. Most importantly, though, getting a grip on your finances unleashes a ridiculous amount of potential for freedom. |
| What are the first 3 sites you check when you wake up? | |
| Crap. I knew you were gonna ask this question. I am going to honest and say: Gmail, Adsense (there... I said it), and either Analytics or DFA. | 1) Gmail 2) Man Vs. Debt (moderate comments, trackbacks, and check for major links/mentions) 3) TweetDeck (so effectively Twitter.com) Does it get any more boring than that? I don't think so ;-) |
| You two seem to be BFFs on twitter. Are you guys really pretty close? | |
| To any who know him this will come as no surprise. Adam Baker is a winner. Period. And I love to surround myself with people are bound to succeed. Beyond that, I prefer friends who are brutally honest and who push me to succeed. I have definitely found that person in Adam. We chat nearly every day in an effort to motivate, encourage, and keep each other on track. I highly value his friendship and am a huge fan of what he is doing. | As far a e-friends go, I'd say we are fairly close. I'm a huge believer in what Matt is doing and have absolutely no doubt in his long-term success. His resolve towards his goals is very addictive to be around. Not only that, but he's been a huge supporter of me from very early on and is constantly pushing me towards bigger and better things. |
| What's your all-time favorite article you've written? | |
| Ha! Nickel is gonna love this. Ironically enough... my all-time favorite post does not reside on DFA, but on FiveCentNickel.com. It is a post title, "Is Personal Responsibility Dead?" It is my favorite because it embodies so much of what I believe and stand for, and really gives readers a solid perspective of where I am coming from. If you haven't already read it... check it out. | That's really, really hard actually. I would have to say the Debt Tsunami post I wrote. When I read back through it, I see that I was just starting to find my 'voice' in the post. It's still my second highest traffic post ever, and was one of the first to be universally linked to by many other pf blogs. The success of the message/tone really fortified my resolve to put myself (and my passion) out there and people would connect with it. It changed the direction of MvD. |
| On a scale of 1-10, how big of a role does religion play in your writings? | |
| Religion? 0. Bible? 10. I strive to filter everything through the judicious principles of the scriptures - and that definitely includes my writing. I fail miserably because I am human, but I try hard to judge myself, my views, and my advice against its matchless wisdom. Heck... I figure any book that has sold over 6 billion copies can't be all bad... right? | 2. I would say 1, because I never ever think about it when writing, but I know that spirituality in general effects 'everything' we do. So, I'll go with 2 ;-). To be blunt, religion (or spirituality in some form) just isn't a priority in my life right now. Hopefully, that we change soon. :-) |
| You both have "debt" in your blog title - What's the damage at now? | |
| Around $10,000 at Lending Club. Around $65,000 in student loans. Around $160,000 in mortgage debt. Despite these high numbers my wife and I have incredible peace in relation to our finances. Why? Because we have a plan. Having a plan to eliminate your debt and build wealth is almost as peaceful as having no debt at all. Now, the only thing standing between us and debt freedom is time and patience. | Approximately $52,000 in student loans left. We've destroyed all of our 'consumer' debt and live without credit cards. Right now we decided to spend a little time on long-term travel and income generation. I'm itching to turn back up the heat and kick out the rest of these loans in the coming year. |
| Do you use any form of budgeting? | |
| Though I am a computer technician, my wife esteems computers about as highly as PF bloggers do credit card debt! So - because I need her on board - I accommodate by using the old school pen and paper method - which I know Adam and Courtney favor as well. I have tried many budgeting programs and while some are very cool, for us nothing beats the simplicity, thoroughness, and flexibility of individual spending journals and hand written budgets. Budgeting took about 8 months to really "take hold" in our lives, so those who are just starting out need to be patient and have fortitude. | Yep, we track every penny we spend (publicly actually on MvD) and normally do a simplified budget by hand every month. When budgeting by hand, we round to whole numbers, use very few categories, and shoot for zero-sum budgeting. We concentrate on 'discretionary' spending the most, but also regularly review our subscriptions and fixed monthly bills. Lately, we've began using PocketSmith (in order to share everything online) and I absolutely love forecasting my spending using their calender system. |
| What's the stupidest financial mistake you've ever made? | |
| Buying our current home. We put zero down and are now upside down. The bright side? We do have a fixed 30 year rate and our payment is only 21% of our NET income - Phew! Would love to hear any solid advice from the commentators about ways to sell when you're upside-down. | Becoming addicted to gambling. I spent a couple years in the industry. I dealt poker, ran a local poker room, and even played professionally for awhile. Ultimately, though it's a losing game. Even though I was 'making' more money than I ever had, my spending was ridiculous. I gained 50 pounds, became depressed, and squandered any dollar I made (even though I didn't go into debt for it specifically). |
| Which is worse: Not blogging for a month, or losing $1,000 in cash? | |
| Not blogging for a month would cost me more than $1,000 and then I would have all kinds of pent up financial geek speak that would fall on the ears of my beautiful wife. She wouldn't appreciate that - so I'll go with losing a $1,000. | While losing a $1000 dollars would have much more of an immediate impact on our finances, over the long haul not blogging for a month would probably end up costing me more. If I was given the choice today, I would lose the $1000 and keep pouring myself into the blog. That either makes me crazy or genius... I'm not sure which. |
| *BONUS* Who would save more money, Batman or Superman? | |
| Oh this one's easy. Though it would appear Batman has much more... Superman has lived simply and below his means for many years. While Batman was busy buying every gadget that came through the bat-cave, Superman was keeping the peace with nothing more than a cape and a public phone booth - stashing money away in the safest place he could find... the Fortress of Solitude! | Are you joking? Wayne Enterprises could have Superman on the payroll and not even notice it. Bruce Wayne rulez, Clark Kent droolz. |
| So who are you voting for? I realize I may have given Baker a head start here w/ the duplicate insertions of his baby, but do your best to look at the content ;) Although there really aren't any scientific methods for voting here - just pick the one you like the most! They're both bad asses in my view, so I commend each of them for their continued support in spreading the good financial word. Keep on rockin' it out guys. ------------ Previous Showdowns: Showdown #1: J.D. Roth vs. Trent Hamm Showdown #2: Stephanie vs. Squawkfox Showdown #3: Lazy Man vs. Silicon Valley Blogger Showdown #4: Flexo vs. Jim Wang | |
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posted by J. Money at
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26 Comments:
Hey, i love both of these guys, I've watched them both sprout from brand new personal finance blogs - to PF heavyweights in no time at all. They both write with a passion that is hard to find on the blogs, and if they stick to it, I know they'll both be highly successful.
I'm going with Matt because I have to agree about Batman being one of those "spend more money than you've got" type guys - who appear wealthy, but are just swimming in debt. I think Wayne industries is probably highly leveraged and on the edge of bankruptcy as it's head man moonlights catching bad guys. Superman meanwhile has quietly been stashing away a huge amounts of cash, never displaying his wealth. ;)
Great interviews! I'll go with Baker, b/c he was pretty cool speaking with me on the Personal Finance Hour. Furthermore, anybody who can take his family one day to New Zealand and live is an adventurer!
It'll be great to get to know Matt as well.
Thanks for highlighting!
I've been looking forward to the showdown since yesterday when J.Money warned us it was coming. What a great match-up. Reading about two friend with different views who share the same cause is great.
For someone like me who has only been following PF blogs for a year it's pretty cool to see how these two got started. The funny part about it is that Matt's favorite post "Is Personal responsibility Dead?" and Adam's favorite "Debt Tsunami" are the reasons I began to follow them. I love both of those posts.
It's also great to see that these power houses are still paying down some debt. It gives the rest of us some hope knowing we are not alone.
Thanks J.Money (Da Babymaker-said in the Arnold voice) for the Showdown
Love this showdown. Matt and Baker are two of the most helpful bloggers out there!
Both had great responses, but since I had to pick one I went with Matt for his response on frugal Superman!
I have to chose one over the other? Isn't there a way to vote for both of them?!
Matt and Adam are both fantastic people, bloggers, and I consider them both role models.
Darn you, J. Money, this one is tough for me.
Great interviews..
The baby does have some influence ;)
How can we vote for the baby? Way cuter than these distinuguished bloggers, much as I love their words and ideas. :-)
You both are great bloggers, with great tips! I like the interview, great idea. Keep up the good work in helping others with their finances. We all need that more than ever now.
I have checked out a few of the showdowns and I have to say that I like this one the best. Fun read. :)
These guys are both great! Matt though is my long lost brother in the financial circle... Man, I feel like I'm reading my story with his writing... Great job to both of you though!! You two are AWESOME!!! Oh, and btw, so are you J. Money! :)
Well said Matt, Superman is the millionaire next door while Batman is the epitome of the Glittering Rich. I bet superman wears a Seiko too. This is a great series J. Money always look forward to it. Even though I'm not going to be making my own toothpaste anytime soon, I had to go with DFA, but thankfully I don't really have to choose one or the other. Both fantastic bloggers.
Jay, your showdown series continues to rock. Highly entertaining stuff! Both of these guys are really inspiring me to bring my A-game to blogging and finances. And I know I'm not the only one.
Matt, you and I have something in common with our wives being computer-phobic. My wife is still incredibly suspicious I spend about 90 percent of my waking time online.
I'm also totally creeped out by the fact that Baker looks like my younger brother when he had a military haircut. It's weird.
This was my favorite blogger showdown yet. I love reading both of these guys. They have a lot of great information and although I don't necessarily always agree with every single post they write they write each post in such a way so that it just stimulates great discussion and not any hard feelings.
Glad you all enjoyed it as much as I did! It's fun asking bloggers crazy questions ;) These two handled them like a champ.
It was a complete toss up until the bonus question. I could not agree more with Matt's reasoning!! Sorry Adam!
Great interview. Really engaging post. I feel like I'm starting to get to know these guys!
Man, these two men have some debt. They both deserve my vote. ;)
I really like both of these guys which made this a difficult choice.
I voted for Milly (the baby).
@Matt: Since you cut up all your credit cards anyway, I definitely suggest you stop paying your mortgage and then reject all offers from your mortgage company and force them to foreclose. You will get at least 12 months of no mortgage payment and then some, and then you can go rent for far less money, save up a 100% down payment, and buy again in 7 years.
I'm not really kidding.
-Erica
I'm not voting. Those were both superb!
Erica,
I don't believe Matt would take that route as it seems to go against everything he stand for and believes. Just as he stated that he uses scripture as his filter, The Word of God says that we should pay back our debts. Even if he didn't care one bit about his Credit situation, this would be the wrong move morally & spiritually.
When we make the decision to go into debt, we have to face it like men & accept responsibility for our decisions. We don't always make the right decision, but we can always make a decision & then make it right!
-TrenT-
This is great! I enjoyed reading it.
I was all set to go with Matt until Adam's response on Batman.
Bruce Wayne rulez, Clark Kent droolz!!!!
Hm, I haven't really read that much of Matt's stuff, I guess I should! :)
That being said, I had to vote for Baker, cos he's one of the only other bloggers I've ever had an actual email conversation with. He's too nice in that regard. ;)
And with great blogs like these around, I'm glad I'm not entirely focused on PF anymore! Competition's too fierce, I like being the big fish in the itty bitty puddle for my niche. :D
I've enjoyed listening to Baker on Personal Finance Hour, but every time he says "especially" as "ex-peshully", I find myself less impressed.
@BigAssSuperstar LOL!
I think these two bloggers are the ones I can relate to the best... Especially Adam, being about the same age and both desiring mobility in our lives.
Good interview, and good guys.
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